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Are these accurate numbers, does anyone know?
 

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Most of the people dying would die within the next 2-5 years probably. Multiple co-morbidities.

So are their lives less valuable than say a 30 year old? Practically speaking, yeah. But tough for 1st world countries to make that harsh distinction.
 

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Most of the people dying would die within the next 2-5 years probably. Multiple co-morbidities.

So are their lives less valuable than say a 30 year old? Practically speaking, yeah. But tough for 1st world countries to make that harsh distinction.
^This is the ugly truth
 

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Yes, and no, mostly, maybe

My best friend's mother-in-law passed a couple of weeks ago. She was in her 80's, living in a skilled nursing facility, had congestive heart failure and had to be rushed to the hospital at least one time per month because of diabetes. She died of "COVID-19". RIP Dorothy

If someone passes with COVID-19, healthcare providers / hospitals get more money. I'm thinking they do a lot more autopsies now if only to "trace" COVID-19. All that extra money is just a byproduct. I know they did an autopsy on Dorothy, something they would never do normally

Ever hear the expression "more people die with Colon Cancer than die from Colon Cancer"? That applies here to some degree. By that I mean fewer 80+ year old people are dying from natural causes nowadays (my theory, to be proven soon enough)

Another analogy. Yale University did a study on deaths caused by medical professionals. They concluded the numbers were vastly overstated. Why? because many of the deceased patients were elderly, terminally ill, didn't have a long life expectancy or didn't have much chance for living a quality life anyhow. Not all of those conditions had to be present, just one.

Which begs the question, what would the COVID-19 death numbers be if they applied those same standards?
 

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Most of the people dying would die within the next 2-5 years probably. Multiple co-morbidities.

So are their lives less valuable than say a 30 year old? Practically speaking, yeah. But tough for 1st world countries to make that harsh distinction.

True, except the expression about "1st world countries". Socialized medicine does allow terminally ill patients to die gracefully, only we give 95 year old patients pacemakers when they just want to die anyways. (my wife's grandmother)
 

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You are driving down the road and get hit head on by a drunk driver. You are flown to your local hospital with a multitude of injuries. On day 3 of your stay, your condition declines and the treatment team finds on a repeat CT of your head that your brain bleed has worsened. Your brain herniates and you die.


What did you die from?


You died because your brain herniated from an intracranial hemorrhage and swelling. Pretty straight forward.


Why did your brain herniate?


Substitute SARS-CoV2 for head on collision. Substitute any number of reasons for brain herniation.


There is enough craziness in the world right now...please don’t add to it.


Here is a link for how physicians complete a death certificate.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/b...mAUd26OOLE7QXV03tbDaigHIySeOLvGCd4ALepVeF8Y8A
 

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Also, hospitals are not “paid extra” for a Covid reported death. They are being REIMBURSED for Covid related care.
 

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Also, hospitals are not “paid extra” for a Covid reported death. They are being REIMBURSED for Covid related care.
what's the difference? do they get, ahemm, reimbursed for tuberculosis-related care? or how about gunshot wound care, AIDS, or high ankle sprains? of course not ... we've put a vehicle in place that rewards hospitals for misrepresenting the impact of a specific virus and they're more than happy to oblige.
 

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Also, hospitals are not “paid extra” for a Covid reported death. They are being REIMBURSED for Covid related care.

That deceased person become a COVID patient, they get more money
 

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what's the difference? do they get, ahemm, reimbursed for tuberculosis-related care? or how about gunshot wound care, AIDS, or high ankle sprains? of course not ... we've put a vehicle in place that rewards hospitals for misrepresenting the impact of a specific virus and they're more than happy to oblige.
Come on. You really think hospitals are faking numbers to get additional funds? The vehicle was put in place because they are dealing with increased numbers of a virus instead of their normal elective procedures that are having to cancel left and right. I had to put off hernia surgery (related to transplant) due to this very issue. Cleveland Clinic for a time had canceled all elective procedures. Same in my area. Many of these hospitals would go under without that vehicle.
 

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That deceased person become a COVID patient, they get more money

Medicare pays 20% more to be exact

There is no reason to do an autopsy on my friend's mother in law, except to find that she was COVID positive (only tracing of course)the double standard being used

I'm not accusing hospitals of making up COVID deaths. I am saying they do autopsies now when they never would have, and when you combine that with Yale University study on medical malpractice, it helps to emphasize the double standard being used to which is terrifying Americans
 

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My father in law died of pneumonia back in June . He was living in assisted care on Queen Anne in Seattle. He suffered from dementia became violent was put in restraints removed from home and placed in covid wing of hospital even though no covid. My wife and mother in law are still waiting to see what has been put on death certificate. He never had covid.Most hospitals “public” are broke you think if there’s a loophole to get payed there integrity supersedes this?
 

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Most of the people dying would die within the next 2-5 years probably. Multiple co-morbidities.

So are their lives less valuable than say a 30 year old? Practically speaking, yeah. But tough for 1st world countries to make that harsh distinction.

Exactly
The very old and very unhealthy are the majority of these. And they could die from just about anything
 

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Exactly
The very old and very unhealthy are the majority of these. And they could die from just about anything
you mean like the 82YO actress who died of "covid complications" yesterday? no, she died because she's fn 82 years old
 

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Why aren't these 3rd world countries being decimated by covid? we know hygiene, sterilizing surfaces, and cleaning areas are something that is happening there.
 

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My father in law died of pneumonia back in June . He was living in assisted care on Queen Anne in Seattle. He suffered from dementia became violent was put in restraints removed from home and placed in covid wing of hospital even though no covid. My wife and mother in law are still waiting to see what has been put on death certificate. He never had covid.Most hospitals “public” are broke you think if there’s a loophole to get payed there integrity supersedes this?
I’m sorry for your loss.

I do not believe a bunch of doctors all over the country are inflating death numbers and risking losing their medical license.
 

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